In case the value of this patch is underestimated, double-click to
maximize vertically is an enormous convenience for anyone who does it
frequently, especially with a widescreen display.
For me, it was so important that years ago it was one of the main reasons
I switched from Gnome to KDE (maybe Gnome has since added this feature, I
haven't checked).
Now I want to switch from the bloated KDE to something else before the next
Debian release, and the absence of this feature from Xfce is the one thing
that keeps me looking for another alternative.
When is the next Xfce release? Will this patch be in it?
@shrdlu@xmail.net. In xfwm you can do that by using the other two mouse buttons on the maximize button just like in a lot of other WMs (second and third mouse buttons). Having the double click functionality would be nice, but it certainly is not a showstopper in your case.
@shrdlu@xmail.net. In xfwm you can do that by using the other two mouse buttons
on the maximize button just like in a lot of other WMs (second and third mouse
buttons). Having the double click functionality would be nice, but it certainly
is not a showstopper in your case.
Thank you for your reply. I already knew this, but it's much quicker
and more convenient to focus on a wide title bar and double click.
If this was something that was done once or twice a day you might
have a case, but for a frequent operation it makes a big difference.
Considering that this is a fairly small patch, and that it doesn't
affect anyone who might not care about this feature, it's a bit
disappointing that you seem reluctant to apply it. It could be
quicker than arguing about it or telling other people that they are
mistaken in their assessment about what is or isn't convenient in
their usage of a window manager.
In any case, this has absolutely no chance of being added in 4.6, we do not add feature in the stable release (even less when that adds new strings for to translate).
For 4.8, maybe, but keep in mind that we have to draw a line somewhere between useful features and bloat. I have not yet decided if that would be desirable in 4.8.
In we add this for maximization, why not do the same for the fill function as well? So we end up with 9 different possibilities/behaviors just for one single option.
That might not sound important to you, but the more possibilities we have, the more potential problems and this could quickly turn out as a support nightmare. And we do not have infinite resources for testing (or for anything else actually), quite the contrary.
As a recent convert / escapee from GNOME 3 to XFCE,
I would just like to add that this is the one very
important feature missing from XFCE.
It's not like if it's really completely missing though. You can use middle/right mouse on the maximize button to get the same, or use the keyboard shortcuts for the given action.
xfce 4.8 also adds double click on the borders and corners to "fill" in the given direction (like double click on top or bottom border to fill vertically, left or right borders to fill horizontally).
Well I'm still using KDE 3.5 and looking for a satisfactory alternative.
So it's disappointing to come back to this forum a year later and find
that T Bingmann's patch still has not been applied.
It's not like if it's really completely missing though. You can use
middle/right mouse on the maximize button to get the same,
I'd guess people requesting this already know this (as I did).
As pointed out above, the title bar is a nice big target,
and quicker to hit than the small maximize button.
xfce 4.8 also adds double click on the borders and corners to "fill" in the
given direction (like double click on top or bottom border to fill vertically,
left or right borders to fill horizontally).
In comment 4, you wrote "In we add this for maximization, why
not do the same for the fill function as well? So we end up
with 9 different possibilities/behaviors just for one single
option."
So, if I understand correctly, the argument before was that
you didn't want to apply the double-click patch for maximize
vertically because then you would have to do it for the fill
function and that would be a "support nightmare". But now
you've done it for the fill function anyway but you continue
to reject the vertical maximize function?
With all due respect to the xfce team, I find it completely inexplicable why this straightforward fix is not implemented yet. This is one feature that I find wanting on a daily basis! Xfce4 is an excellent environment in most other ways, and dare I say that it is the most reasonable GUI environment that Linux has to offer.
The argument that this simple feature will make xfce4 a bloatware is completely insane.
If you are ever using any type of editor or a terminal on a semi-regular basis, you know that toggling maximize-vertical quickly is an essential thing to do!
Please fix this bug, and make xfce4 a respectable and friendly environment.
I'm moving on now from Windows 7, where I first came across this functionality and it is absolutely vital. I cannot imagine a desktop without it; absence means the given desktop is not viable.
What I see in general over many distros is that the maximize button is overloaded, so the middle and right mouse buttons maximize vertically and horizontally, respectively.
This is not good enough. Firstly because the maximize button is small and by that slower and harder to access, where this operation I perform constantly and so look to hav a much larger area to click in. Secondly, the middle mouse button is the wheel and is not viable as a clicking button.
The best I've been able to find is with KDE, where there's enough configuration I can have double clicking the title bar maximize vertically, and left clicking the maximize button maximize fully.
As it is, what I really want - but have seen nowhere - is double clicking the top or bottom drag border of the window frame to maximize vertically, and double clicking the left or right drag border maximize horizontally, and double clicking the title bar to maximize normally.
Xfce is is every respect except for this absolutely vital respect seemingly ideal. I want a minimal manager, my needs are simple, I don't want lots of functionality a la Gnome, KDE, etc - but the easy maximization of windows is catagorically vital, and overloading the maximize button does not meet this need.