X settings should be obeyed

Submitted by Felipe Contreras

Assigned to Jérôme Guelfucci

Link to original bug (#9539)

Description

I have the following .xinitrc:

#!/bin/sh

xset r rate 200 80 setxkbmap -layout us -variant altgr-intl synclient VertEdgeScroll=1

exec startxfce4

The keyboard rate setting should be obeyed like the keyboard map setting is.

added 5. Keyboard Settings label

Igor Slepchin said:

xkb-plugin doesn't touch autorepeat settings; xfce4-keyboard-settings controls the keyboard autorepeat rate so it makes total sense that it overwrites whatever you may set with xset, imho.

I'm refiling this to xfce4-settings in case any other maintainer wants to take a look.

Felipe Contreras said:

(In reply to comment 1)

xkb-plugin doesn't touch autorepeat settings; xfce4-keyboard-settings controls the keyboard autorepeat rate so it makes total sense that it overwrites whatever you may set with xset, imho.

I'm refiling this to xfce4-settings in case any other maintainer wants to take a look.

If the repeat settings should be overwritten, then so should the keyboard map. Why not allow the user to simply use the global settings (as it happens with the keyboard map).

Felipe Contreras said:

(In reply to Felipe Contreras from comment 2)

(In reply to comment 1)

xkb-plugin doesn't touch autorepeat settings; xfce4-keyboard-settings controls the keyboard autorepeat rate so it makes total sense that it overwrites whatever you may set with xset, imho.

I'm refiling this to xfce4-settings in case any other maintainer wants to take a look.

If the repeat settings should be overwritten, then so should the keyboard map. Why not allow the user to simply use the global settings (as it happens with the keyboard map).

Hello? Why not?

Igor Slepchin said:

Why not?

XFCE controls only a subset of available XKB settings so it makes sense to let users who want to control more exotic XKB options outside of XFCE a way to do that; that's really an exception - no other XFCE-controlled setting can be overwritten in this manner afaik. On the other hand, all available auto-repeat settings are configurable through XFCE so I personally see little motivation for changing the current behavior.

Felipe Contreras said:

(In reply to Igor Slepchin from comment 4)

no other XFCE-controlled setting can be overwritten in this manner afaik.

It's not about overriding, it's about Xfce not setting them in the first place, and I have you an example:

setxkbmap -layout us -variant altgr-intl

I do that before running Xfce and it works because Xfce doesn't override that.

On the other hand, all available auto-repeat settings are configurable through XFCE so I personally see little motivation for changing the current behavior.

Yes, but now I have to change the settings in two places. It is unreasonable to expect the user to configure X settings in each and every desktop environment. xset r rate 200 80 works in i3, why doesn't it work in Xfce?

Couldn't Xfce just not apply the setting, like it does with the keyboard layout?

What's so hard about simply not executing that code if the configuration isn't there?

If you want more control, I suggest that you do not start the whole Xfce session (which includes the Xfce settings daemon), but only the components which you need.

closed